And please no proactive, I have no acne i do have occasional break outs but something more natural please. I do get redish pale skin and dry skin too. send me a link to the picture of the product too.

It really doesn't matter what brand they are, so long as they work how you want them to work! I am currently using a supermarket own brand cleanser which is great - it does just what I want it to do so I shall buy it again. I vary between Nivea and Clinique products for moisture - but I'll try anything once!

Have you tried Avon?